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Sunday, 04/28/2024 1:39:11 PM

Sunday, April 28, 2024 1:39:11 PM

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Funny thing..... Still not a single person has offered a single example of a law or a judges legal opinion, that shows there is some material benefit of positive IPR trial outcomes, to a patent owner suing for infringement. Strangely enough, but totally in keeping with the plethora of false ideas, opinions and narratives commonly found on the Vplm msg board, so far THAT is the ONLY place where such opinion can be found. And not just found, but actually shown there to be THE PREMIER number one reason, given by the highest number of ppl, quite often and more widely accepted as gospel than anything else. I suspect than anything else because there simply IS nothing else found here or anywhere else that shows, proves or validates that the patents actually live up to the hype assigned to them by Vplm, in terms of their baseline, necessary, foundational attributes, which includes the claim that voip services cannot be provided without the use of these patents.

I've noted it many times but due to the, in my opinion, fallacious beliefs as to the attributes and actual abilities, I have to keep noting that when the ptab trials result in a positive result for the plaintiff, THAT is no more of a validation than the original act of issuing the application patenthood. The law states that a patent is (of course) assumed to be valid from birth and including all the specific challenges that an IPR challenge might question. And that is because of the exhaustive work the USPTO examiners do as part of thetir procecution of the patent. That why it tabkes so long to get a patent. Of course, the examiner, being human, could have missed something or made a mistake. That's normally not the true reason the challengers start an ipr as they are more of an "throw stuff against the wall and hope something sticks". and unfortunately, often times, something does stick. I have little doubt that would've been the case for Vplm as well, but it's no secret that vplm's 100% record with the ptab, which was and is, as far as I know, up til then and since, totally UNPRECEDENTED, is the result of the also unprecedented and very powerful series of around 5 letters written by the esteemed former ceo Tom Sawyer, with his threat of federal Rico charges against the well known corrupt leader and panel judges. THAT is the reason for the so called "wins".

Thus I find it largely disingenuous or biased or agendized, that so many pro vplm voices keep bringing up their CLEARLY NUMBER 1 reason given for their belief in how and why Vplm will eventually come out a winner in court or by virtue of settlements.

IT IS A FALSE REASON! and will in my opinion, in the end, prove itself to be the very downfall of this play. .

Where are the judicially derived indicators that IPR wins are a big benefit?
Where are the results of the alleged core patents worldwide nodal testing?
Where is any proof that is equal to the alleged 25 or so voip engineers at a cost of some $17 million to create them? Where is anyone with that level of knowledge who can and will step up to validate they are "ALL THAT"??
Why is it that some here insist that some other company's alleged expert, in court, who testified about their use of relays, is believed to be some big deal when relays, which are not part of Vplm patents, are as common as doorknobs. Relays are simply common electromagnetic switches and are used in a huge portion of electronics simply for switching purposes. I can see no way the use of relays would be pivotal. And relays are hardware components. The patents are software.

And last but by no means least,

All my commentary is to be considered as my personal opinions, to which I am entitled. And there is no proof of said opinions unless I offer it in the comments.

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