I'm reminded of a post: <A HREF="http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&board=EDIG&read=1119398+&startfrom=&numposts=30" target="_new">http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&board=EDIG&read=1119398+&startf...</A>