Liquid, You might ask Jim how he plans to sell his products to government agencies with out a FIPS 140 certification... since it is a FISCAM requirement. He does know about FISCAM (Federal Information System Controls Audit Manual), right? <A HREF="http://www.rycombe.com/short140.htm" target="_blank">http://www.rycombe.com/short140.htm</A> <A HREF="http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-procure/tirno04r00001_attach_j10_security_document_links.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-procure/tirno04r00001_attach_j10_security_document_links.pdf</A>