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Re: LittleBirdin my Ear post# 72784

Monday, 02/26/2024 10:18:17 AM

Monday, February 26, 2024 10:18:17 AM

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SFRX's the sole owner of Juno, period. Spain.......

never made a claim when the Admiralty Arrest was first sought, nor did Florida. Neither were a party in the case.

After the 1987 Abandoned Shipwreck Act was passed, Florida assumed ownership of all wrecks in state waters, but Juno was grandfathered in. Judd apparently didn't understand this, and for some reason neither did SFRX, at least for some time.

Florida made claims on the Atocha and other wrecks, Spain did not. Hence the division with MFT and the state.

Spain didn't start making claims until the late 90's with the wrecks off Virgina. At first Spain won the rights to Juno but lost LaGalga, which was appealed.

IV. Conclusion
Regardless of whether or not JUNO and LA GALGA are considered to be warships, they are subject to a rule of express abandonment under the Fourth Circuit's precedent in Columbus-America. Sea Hunt has succeeded in showing by "strong and convincing" evidence that, through the 1763 Treaty, Spain has expressly abandoned title to LA GALGA. Therefore, title to LA GALGA now lies with Virginia *692 under the Abandoned Shipwreck Act, and Sea Hunt may continue with its salvage efforts according to the terms of the VMRC permits. There has been no such evidence of abandonment, however, as to JUNO. Neither the 1819 Treaty nor the declaration of war in 1898 contain any evidence of an abandonment of JUNO by Spain. Therefore Spain retains title to JUNO's wreck, and Virginia has no claim to JUNO under the Abandoned Shipwreck Act. Sea Hunt may not, without Spain's permission, continue salvage operations on the remains of JUNO.

The question remains as to whether Sea Hunt is entitled to a salvage award for JUNO under traditional salvage law. Spain has specifically indicated that it wishes to treat JUNO as a maritime grave and does not want the wreck to be salvaged. As this issue has not been fully argued by the parties, the question of whether Sea Hunt is entitled to an award under salvage law for salvage work performed on JUNO is expressly RESERVED, pending supplemental briefing by the parties. Each party to the case is ORDERED to submit a supplemental brief on the issue of whether Sea Hunt is entitled to a salvage award for JUNO within 30 days of the entry of this Order. The Court may require further evidence concerning the extent of the salvage conducted on JUNO. Amicus United States is also granted leave to submit a brief on this issue if it so chooses.

It is ORDERED, as to Spain's Motion for Summary Judgement that Spain retains title to and ownership of JUNO, and that its claim of ownership and title to LA GALGA is DENIED and DISMISSED. It is further ORDERED that Sea Hunt's Motion for Partial Judgement on the Pleadings is GRANTED to the extent that the Commonwealth of Virginia owns and has title to LA GALGA and was acting in accord with existing authority in issuing a salvage permit to Sea Hunt for LA GALGA.


https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/47/678/2527737/

Upon appeal, the 4th Circuit ruled with Spain, and later the US Supreme Court upheld the 4th Circuit's opinion.

We reverse the judgment of the district court that the Kingdom of Spain abandoned the vessel LA GALGA. We affirm the judgment of the district court as to JUNO. Both vessels remain the property of Spain. The judgment of the district court is accordingly

We affirm the district court's denial of a salvage award to Sea Hunt. The district court found, "It is the right of the owner of any vessel to refuse unwanted salvage. Sea Hunt knew before bringing this action that the JUNO was a Spanish ship and that Spain might make a claim of ownership and decline salvage. . . . Because Sea Hunt had prior knowledge of Spain's ownership interests and had reason to expect Spain's ownership claim and refusal to agree to salvage activity on JUNO, Sea Hunt can not be entitled to any salvage award."


https://casetext.com/case/sea-hunt-v-kingdom-of-spain

But this is the most important part of the ruling.

The United States "is the owner of military vessels, thousands of which have been lost at sea, along with their crews. In supporting Spain, the United States seeks to insure that its sunken vessels and lost crews are treated as sovereign ships and honored graves, and are not subject to exploration, or exploitation, by private parties seeking treasures of the sea." Amicus Curiae Br. of U.S. at 1. Protection of the sacred sites of other nations thus assists in preventing the disturbance and exploitation of our own. Here the government's interest is rooted in customary international law. See 8 Digest of U.S. Practice in International Law 999, 1006 (1980) (noting that interference with sunken military vessels, "especially those with deceased individuals," is "improper" and that foreign governments' requests to have such views respected "should be honored").

It bears repeating that matters as sensitive as these implicate important interests of the executive branch. Courts cannot just turn over the sovereign shipwrecks of other nations to commercial salvors where negotiated treaties show no sign of an abandonment, and where the nations involved all agree that title to the shipwrecks remains with the original owner. Far from abandoning these shipwrecks, Spain has vigorously asserted its ownership rights in this proceeding. Nothing in the law of admiralty suggests that Spain has abandoned its dead by respecting their final resting place at sea.


Now Kyle and Huffy can claim all the merchant vessel BS they want, but they're full it. The Juno site is grandfathered. Whatever is there belongs to SFRX and no one else.

Any other new wrecks found would not be grandfathered, and a Spanish vessel, unless abandoned by an expressed act, would remain the property of Spain.

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