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Re: livefree_ordie post# 452977

Sunday, 10/01/2023 7:46:55 PM

Sunday, October 01, 2023 7:46:55 PM

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livefree_ordie, So you seem to be saying the basis for your saying people here lie is your claim that people put words in your mouth. That's not lying. It could be being mistaken about you, but it isn't lying. I say seem to be because i wouldn't want to give you more mistaken ammo. And whose fault is it if others here don't see you as standing for what you see yourself standing for? Clue: Don't blame all others.

As for your claim

" I wish American’s serving our Government for us would cut spending but posters here seem to think everything is just hunky dory. " ,

on the evidence that is plainly wrong. You say it because it helps you to feel good about yourself. You say it because you believe it yet it is baseless. You ignore the evidence against it. Posts here critical of American gun laws, inequality, poverty, racism are plentiful. Your statement above is rubbish. Take one current example, SoxFan's reply to you

How about we do this for starters and then get back to me.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172937519

clearly refutes what you just said above. And you ignore it because you don't have anything to say? Why now something like "Good ideas." I'll tell you why because you are not a Chomsky who describes himself as a Libertarian socialist. You come across as conservative to your bootstraps, even though you see Jimmy Carter as a good man.

Back to your totally baseless opinion - Every single poster here would at some time have posted more than one thing which clearly says they do not believe "everything is just hunky dory." Every single poster here.

Yet, again, you still say it. Like Trump, you make things up.

So to your Libertarian bent - that makes you closer to the GOP than to the Democrats, and that is how you have come across here. You remember this one?

ivefree_ordie, So you are capable of posting something other than a relatively nonsensical fiction-filled rant. Congratulations. Much appreciated. Yes, every decent American must have at least respected Jimmy Carter's integrity.
[...] Building a Conservative Movement
Over the past decade, political historians have examined the individuals, institutions, and networks that conservative activists built during the post-WWII period as an alternative to the dominant political and economic establishment.2 Throughout the Sunbelt and in suburban neighborhoods, businessmen, housewives, evangelicals, anticommunists, and libertarians began to organize in local and national politics. As historian Kim Phillips-Fein writes, it was both a diverse social and political movement, in which a “small group of committed activists and intellectuals ultimately managed to win a mass following and a great deal of influence in the Republican Party” by articulating messages of “anticommunism, a laissez-faire approach to economics, opposition to the civil rights movement and commitment to traditional sexual norms.”3
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While looking for one post, some others

[...][ Insert: The Liberal Democrats would be a libertarian outfit to the right of the two main Australian political parties.
"On 18 May 2017, the Liberal Democratic Party formed a 'conservative bloc' with One Nation
and the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party in the Western Australia Legislative Council.[42]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Australia) ]
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The changes at CNN look politically motivated. That should concern us all
[...]P - A few years back, John Malone, the largest shareholder in Warner Bros. Discovery, made critical comments about CNN, and cited Fox News as a model the network might wish to follow. In a 2021 “Squawk Box” interview, Malone said:
P - Fox News, in my opinion, has followed an interesting trajectory of trying to have news news, I mean some actual journalism, embedded in a program schedule of all opinions. And I think they’ve been relatively successful with a service like Bret Baier, and Brit Hume before him, that try to distinguish news from opinion. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171857387]
P - Malone describes himself as a “libertarian” although he travels in rightwing Republican circles. In 2005, he held 32% of the shares of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation. He is on the board of directors of the Cato Institute. In 2017, he donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration.
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B402, You have repeatedly been given proof Democrats have done so much more for the middle class and the poor than conservatives. That is unarguable.
[...]Context of '1979-1980: Billionaire Libertarians Defeated in Presidential Campaign, Decide to Influence Politics through Organizations'
Watching The Billionaires' Tea Party .. http://vimeo.com/20622744 .. now.
P - This is a scalable context timeline. It contains events related to the event 1979-1980: Billionaire Libertarians Defeated in Presidential Campaign, Decide to Influence Politics through Organizations. You can narrow or broaden the context of this timeline by adjusting the zoom level. The lower the scale, the more relevant the items on average will be, while the higher the scale, the less relevant the items, on average, will be.
1940 and After: Koch Industries Founder Becomes Influential
Right-Wing Backer, Shapes Political Vision of Sons
[...]
1977-Present: Koch Billionaires Fund Libertarian Think Tank
Cato Institute logo.
[Source: Cato Institute]
[...]
1979-1980: Billionaire Libertarians Defeated in Presidential Campaign, Decide to Influence Politics through Organizations
P - Oil billionaire David Koch runs for vice president on the Libertarian Party ticket.
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Did you know American libertarians are different than those of similar inclination elsewhere.
You are either up early as i am here mostly now, or you have all nighters as i used to do when i was more .. lolol .. your age. wink
A former Mitt Romney policy expert explains why what most people call 'conservative' in America today should really be called something else: Libertarianism
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To save repetition read
livefree_ordie, I give you one article and you come out with this crap:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170096214 .... again.

Didn't find the post i was looking for but it was to the essence, if Libertarianism was the way why isn't there a single country in the world with a Libertarian government.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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