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I'm going to
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explain in one of my programs but today I want to introduce you to my first
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capsule my first interview of an extraordinary man a social leader a
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leader who cares about the original peoples a person who has more than
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13 15 years working in petróleos mexicanos in different areas is a leader
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trade union but his testimony of life his commitment to the country is important that
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know him and for me it is truly an honor to be able to introduce you to Sergio Ayala
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We share this report [Music]
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friends I am glad to greet you again Adolfo Gorduin in his world section
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diverse because today we have a very special guest, a dear and great friend
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activist very committed to social work union leader has a job
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extraordinary in Pemex in Mexican oils and well I want you to know
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in its human, entrepreneurial and creative side Sergio Ayala Good afternoon to
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Sergio, it's a pleasure to have you here with us, so let's know how you're doing with what
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continue for you and for Mexico for your foundations talk to us good morning everyone
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Thanks for the interview Adolfo, a great friend of many years, congratulates me on this interview. And yes, there was
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what issues that society is very important today to make them aware from the point of view of nature what is the
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environment with regard to the management of oil that has worried me a lot about the oil transformation but since
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the environmental point of view or not more of production but also environmentalist and on the other hand he has been a fighter
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social since I was 26 years old we have worked a lot in the rescue of the water of Chapala I am from Guadalajara and there I grew up and for
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therefore I have been a fighter in that area rescuing my Huichol brothers, which is a part that also
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I dedicated seven years to that. So we have given life a good time in what
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which is social work and you were also one of the first who began to deal with the issue of garbage in addition to
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I know this issue that identifies us with support for native peoples, but tell us about those origins of
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How did you start to get involved with the environment on one occasion? In those days I used all the hunting
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I was hunting and I was there hunting and accidentally the part came out
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where the city garbage was and I stepped on a piece of garbage that buried me
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needle that infected my foot and it took six months for it to heal So I thought
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If that was with a single footstep, what happens to everything that is there around what is there and that is where it already closes the
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He thought we should do something with this garbage. I was 26 years old at the time.
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and with another cousin, Fidel Costón, today together we begin to work on processing the
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garbage at that time we made processes of transformation to wood eh we compressed the garbage and we did it
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wood and we were taking it to public works from there in Guadalajara to the surroundings we did about three years of
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estudio We were crazy at that time everyone talked about garbage today it is very common to talk about
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transformation of garbage but In those years I am already talking about the 88 90s Well, not yet, do not see it that way
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like such a strong impact. Well, based on that accident, I dedicated more or less four five years to the transformation of
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the garbage and he hasn't released it, eh, I'm still working on it, yes. Besides, I think that in those days the lake still had water
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Chapala No, it was still quite nourished because it reduced the volume a lot.
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In those days it was like a sea, eh, it had its waves and they beat on the
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restaurants passed over the inclusive of the pier and
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With time it dried up, it withdrew until it became a desert. There were no four-wheelers there and they made
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contests of that I also went to eat with the illusion of being on the shore of the Lake and my
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The distribution was that I went to eat in a frozen desert in Chapala. It was not far away, just the mirror of water.
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So there again with my friend, my cousin Fidel and two other friends, we founded the association called
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let's rescue the water of Chapala we were the first that all this helped you to later arrive as a union leader in
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Mexican oils and bring all these experiences, all these environmental experiences.
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not through the union as it happened What happened [Music]
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certain relatives told me about oil workers who had some daughters for some
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infections and my cousin is a medical researcher in this molecular medicine and I warned him about
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that, well, hairs and we realized that precisely the oil that is spilled in Las
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Lagoons and then later pass the consolations I bring them through a well in your house and you use it for use
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Domestic Well, that's what they were detecting, so I began to have contact with our brothers
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oil tankers, well, around 2000 and there I did venture supporting my brothers
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oil workers that little by little I became an oil worker until 2004-5 when I already became a
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flat full to oil I loved that oil area its transformation
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but above all that involved oil in all our
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environment but also in our daily life practically 80%
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that we load is oil and that's how it is, I say Pemex, Mexican oils, because it's a
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institution really with strength and national and international visibility
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from there so many things transcend, no And how do you see Pemex? How do you see oil?
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Mexicans for the next five years, for me it was sad to see her because I
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I saw how, little by little, they were breaking it, cutting, mutilating, and it gave me a
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very very big sadness that And that pushed me to make a union leader fight
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due to the transformation due to the abuses of the worker who began to
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take away the rights when he was one of the highest paid in the country and then we
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they removed the Mexican Institute of petroleum to have us the lack of certification of the workforce all
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that took us away from being competitive Pemex was the fourth in the world in
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importance of oil both in technology and in its development and
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production I presumed that in the arab emirates
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there were microcracks in the pipeline and while there some Mexicans told him
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join us Help us help us with these microcracks So the Mexicans
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they created a solder a a solder league that came and soldered to God
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the matter was over so they saw that with that Mexican creation they could solve the problem that
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They had years that they could not solve it and today two years ago at Christmas I had a convention of
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the oil consuls of all the emirates they talked to me only
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They said, "Hey, it's that you left us an inheritance there, Mexican welding, and when there is a microcrack and
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He says no and what do we do, you know, see, it was in the Mexican welder and it stayed like that
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So this is a pride of Mexico and yet I will turn to see an industry that was torn to pieces
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we were knew to fight fifteen years of oil struggle until this
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president and began to rescue the industry we can talk a thousand things about de
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a president but the facts There it is today we are an industry that
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we were in 18th place right now we are almost in eleventh finishing Deep pardo we are going to go up almost
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At the sixth we are two points away from reaching the fourth What was done the Ayala industry was rescued
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in Pemex that we need all of us to join in and think precisely what
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that a very large investment is being made to rescue such a strong industry and that gave us the wealth of
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Mexico, the solidity that we have today and that we are going to have for the next ten fifteen years will be given to us by oil
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Unquestionably, they talk about oil contamination, but they are talking about the contamination of some of the
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derivatives are fuels and we know that five eight years we are gradually going to migrate from there
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towards other ways of transporting ourselves that is not fuel, not And look and see
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I tell everyone in two three years it will be expensive to spend on gasoline it will
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The three bridges will be much cheaper because this part, this part that is productive of oil, can be used in other
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We already have resources right now, well, all the oil clothing. So I believe
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that how Sergio Ayala Pemex sees I see that he was rescued
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Now it's up to all Mexicans to consolidate it And that's
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a great responsibility and consolidating it is not only production but also being friendly with the environment and not
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only with the environment I believe that you with your testimony of life and everything you have done throughout your
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Stay In this material terrain, your coexistence with vulnerable populations will not
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because Pemex really crosses the entire length and breadth of the country there is no work
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work everywhere you have to live with different groups not for
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other union leaders your experience I think we hope you continue in Pemex and continue
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improving this institution Because it also gives many benefits you will have to negotiate with many people communities
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characters to get ahead of the institution how do you see yourself as a leader
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only union of Mexican oils but as a sensitive being committed
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with Mexico I see myself as one more participant of many of those who
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are there and listen to me today here in Mexico there are many like me who are looking for
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a real transformation of Mexico And that implies a social commitment and how
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You say it, Adolfo, my commitment is not only with my fellow oil workers but also with my indigenous brothers from the
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which was a part and they consider me as a Huichol brother for the time I lived with them and I also see them with
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a harmony towards us that they have to participate and that the president have. So now the option of being
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Custodians of the Mayan Jungle Custodians of the Precious Woods
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custodians of the education of languages ??and etcetera etcetera I believe that this
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point plus enough look at all those who listen to me Mexico we have seen it that it is
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rich but today With this of the Mayan train with this of rescuing Pemex that has
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discovered like when you find the diamond and you begin to remove the mud and begin to see that it shines and shines
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that is our Mexico That is the Mexico that is flourishing that is emerging but we cannot cut it in one shape
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unconscious we have to think from here from the heart from our spirit and our mind that we must
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do it in an orderly way with our mother earth with our pachamama but we all have to see it
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as brothers and that's where I see myself I see myself as a social fighter from here until I die because that's what
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The more it fills me, the more it fulfills me to be able to transform our Mexico
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and I love it I love it because I see that we are on the same channel you see that
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Diverse Mexico not all that diversity that makes up our country and that
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needs careful attention and and also from the legislative part no So
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we want you seeing you in your career as a human being as a union leader and what
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come because life takes many turns I know you will be very visible Very
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attentive to everything that is convenient for Mexico and our original populations that this work of yours will help me
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love it, well, we hope you return to this your program to this space you want
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say goodbye say something to our audience of course thank you first for the interview thank you for listening to us
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But there is a message that I do want to make clear to fight for a goal an objective you
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takes sooner or later to achieve it, the point is not to stop walking until
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sooner or later you will arrive late or sooner we will arrive and Mexico has already started to walk let's all walk together
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let's walk hand in hand let's make this Mexico a New Mexico and for that
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here we go thanks Well friends what did you think let's wait
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that you like it and stay tuned to this new segment that is starting in this our diverse world channel
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we will have great guests have a very good afternoon and until our next session good afternoon
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