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Re: dropdeadfred post# 122154

Tuesday, 05/23/2023 10:24:36 PM

Tuesday, May 23, 2023 10:24:36 PM

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Your repeating it for the reason you did gives you ownership too. We know old people die from many things, increased anxiety over the covid period could have contributed to more aged deaths. No doubt covid caused more deaths incidental to death by the disease itself. Not turning on heaters in very cold times could contribute. Not so good medical care no doubt contributed. There is plenty of evidence supporting excess deaths for different reasons.

We know one thing for certain: There is no evidence the excess deaths you slobber over were caused by covid vaccines. Another one:

The real reason is as mundane, and tragic, as an underfunded NHS still struggling with the terrible effects of Covid

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It’s likely to be a mix of factors: Covid is making us sicker and more vulnerable to other diseases (research suggests it may contribute to delayed heart attacks, strokes, and dementia); an ageing population; an extremely hot summer; and an overloaded health service meaning that people are dying from lack of timely medical care. This winter, the cost of living crisis and concerns about fuel poverty will add to these contributory factors, given the links between deprivation and ill health. So we may see these excess death numbers continue.

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Second, Office for National Statistics data has shown that mortality jumped on days with extreme heat. We know extreme weather events are becoming more common, and that higher temperatures can lead to strokes, heart attacks and blood clotting in elderly and vulnerable groups. This problem is not going away as climate experts warn that what we see as unusually hot temperatures will become the norm over the next 50 years.

But most importantly: Covid-19 is still circulating and killing people, especially those in elderly groups and those who are unvaccinated. While it has dropped from being the leading cause of death, it is still one of the top 10 causes of death in the population, and even with a much-reduced fatality rate due to vaccination and prior infection, it is contributing to that 10-13% jump in summer excess mortality. In fact, as these figures show from the ONS, many other major causes of death are slightly below the five-year average.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/13/whats-behind-the-mystery-of-thousands-of-excess-deaths-this-summer

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