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Re: risk_it_us post# 752

Sunday, 02/11/2007 4:59:24 PM

Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:59:24 PM

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Hi risk, (lets actually compare shall we)
You claim other prophecy/writings are without error, alright..

THE "KORAN"... AND THE "BIBLE":

The Koran deals with many similar features as the Bible: Adam, Noah, Satan, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Moses, David, Gabriel, Virgin Mary, Jesus... the Koran honors and praises the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel of Jesus.
Both, the Koran and the Bible, show the greatness of the only one God, the creator of heavens and earth, the submission that all humans should have to the will of God, the Last Judgment, or Day of Resurrection, Heaven, Hell...

Discrepancies:
However, there are some "discrepancies" between the Koran and the Bible, important enough to say that either the Koran is not the word of God or the Bible is not the word of God... they cannot be both "the truth"... one of them is false, even if it has many good things... because God cannot say one single error!.
For a Muslin, even the suggestion that the Koran may be in error, is a blasphemy... as it happens with a Jew and his Scriptures, and a Christian with the whole Bible... but we should be open-minded... if you were born from Muslim or Jew parents, now, most probably, you would be a Muslim or a Jew, what your parents were!... or a Christian or a Hindu, if your parents were Christians or Hindus...
... And I am not "suggesting" that the Koran has errors... I am saying it! (as do ALL other "teachings")... as follows:

The "Trinity"... "Mary":
The Koran proclaims that "the Trinity of the Bible" are three Gods: "The Father, Jesus, and Mary"... as declared in the Surah 5:116, "Then God will say: Jesus son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind: "Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?"...
... and this is a "gross error" of the Koran, because the Bible does not say that the Trinity is "the Father, Jesus, and Mary", but "the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit"... and God cannot make that gross mistake!.
Muslim scholars see the angel Gabriel as the Holy Spirit.

The "Trinity":
The Trinity is rejected by the Koran, and in fact it says that to believe in the Trinity is to be an unbeliever, "Unbelievers are those that say: "God is one of three" (5:73)... However, every time God speaks in the Koran he does it as "We", "Us", Our", over 100 times!... showing again and again that God is not a single person, but several persons in one divine being: In Sura 37:70-130 the Koran repeats it at least 17 times: "Noah prayed to Us... We bestowed on him... We gave him... We reword the righteous" and every time writes them with capital, "We", Us", "Our"... "Then We sent forth Moses and Aaron with Our signs" (10:75)... over and over is repeated in the same way in Suras 7:1-11, 2, 6, 10...

"Jesus Christ":
There are several important discrepancies between the Koran and the Bible:
- The Gospels, say that Jesus is God, he was crucified, and he resurrected physically...
- The Koran, denies the 3 facts... but then, praises the "Gospel of Jesus"... that's a "gross error of the Koran", because if Jesus is not God, and he was not crucified, the Koran should say that the Gospel of Jesus is wrong, instead of praising the Gospel, and advising to follow the doctrines of the Gospel in Suras 5:46 and 5:65... the divinity of Jesus, his crucifixion, and resurrection at the third day, is the "heart of the Gospel"!.

"God the Father":
This is not a error but "a missing" in the Koran: Of the 99 attributes of God, is missing "the Father": God is the Father of every Muslim, and every Christian, and Jew, and Hindu... the same Allah who made the hands of a Muslim, made the feet of a Jew, and the kidneys of a Christian... God is the compassionate Father, the merciful as a Father is...

"Eternally Father":
This is another "missing" of the Koran... God is eternally the Father of Jesus Christ, eternally begotten, not made, and one in being with the Father; Jesus is eternally God as the Father, because if at any moment God would not have had a Son, at that moment God would not have been a Father, which is an impossible... and Jesus Christ is as much God as the Father, God from God... but not two Gods, only one God!... like the water and ice, not 2 waters, but the same substance in different forms... and the Holy Spirit is like a cloud, also the same water, who proceeds eternally from the love of Father to the Son and the love of the Son to the Father... and there are not 3 Gods, but only one eternal God: The God of Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, of the Sura 2:133, which are not 3 Gods, but the only one God... and that's why the only one God speaks as "We" and "Us" and "Our", at least 17 times in the Surah of The Ranks (37), in verses 70-130.

The "Savior":
This is another "missing" in the Koran: God loved you so much that he became flesh, Jesus the Christ, to die in a cross to pay for all your bad deeds, so if you believe in Him may not perish, but have eternal life (John 3:16)...
The certainty of salvation known by the Christian (Jn.3:36, 5:24) is but a vague hope to the Muslim who awaits the Day of Resurrection when "works", not "grace", will determine his destination in the next life: The balance between good and bad deeds determines eternal destiny in Paradise or Hell... God's mercy may tip the balance for a Muslim, but it is arbitrary and uncertain...
Right now you can have "eternal life, forgiveness of sins: believe in the Son, that Jesus Christ is God, and you will be born again.

"God in you":
This is the great difference of a Muslim, a Jew, and a Christian: For a Muslim and a Jew, God is with him, guiding him to the right path... but for a Christian God is "within him"... "You in me, and I in you", says Jesus in John 15... Christ is inside a Christian, and a Christian is inside Christ, in his Church... because Jesus not only died on a cross to pay for all your sins, but also resurrected to give you a "new life", the life of God in you... and you can have it all right now, just by believing in the Son, in Jesus Christ (John 3:36)... and this is all free, by grace, by the power of the Holy Spirit, your sanctifier, who is with you now, helping you to become a Christian, without forcing you, like a dove, but with the power of God, able to make your life one of service and love... a "new creature" on earth... and, on top of it, a sure eternal Paradise after death, for those that continue to live by His precepts found in the Holy Word of God.

"Jews" and "Christians":
In the Koran, Jews are damned by Allah, and Christians are told that faith in Christ as God incarnate is "blasphemy"... but the same Koran praises and recommends the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus, which is a contradiction







It is a puzzling thing. The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.

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