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Re: back2basics post# 134685

Tuesday, 04/26/2022 8:51:59 AM

Tuesday, April 26, 2022 8:51:59 AM

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B2B Do you even know what you posted your sounding like Kinsey Graham and McCain Neocons ? Both the UN and Russia were for peace through the signed Minsk Agreements. The US ordered Zelinsky to discard the agreement. Another US deception.

TAKING NOTE of the declarations of the Secretary-General of the United Nations calling for a peaceful solution to the conflict in Ukraine and that the solution be reached in accordance with the Minsk Agreements endorsed by the United Nations Security Council in resolution 2202 of 2015;


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/what-are-the-minsk-agreements-on-the-ukraine-conflict/vi-AATBQ91
placeholder France 24
8 Feb
What are the Minsk agreements on the Ukraine conflict?

France and Germany in 2015 helped broker a peace deal, known as the Minsk agreements, that ended large-scale hostilities in the region but failed to bring about a political settlement of the conflict. The Kremlin has repeatedly accused Kyiv of sabotaging implementation of the agreements, and Ukrainian officials in recent weeks said that implementing them would be detrimental for the country.

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State indicating Putin was provoked through a long festering U.S. agenda.
"You don't go around playing regime change games with guys who have more nuclear weapons than you"

Well, regime change in Russia is the wet dream of Washington for more than a decade.
This is Hillary in 2012, dreaming of a 'post-Putin' strategy:


UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439
Doc No. CO5794131 Date:12/31/2015

https://twitter.com/PinkP_nther/status/1513628730618486796/photo/1

ANOTHER DOCUMENT MORE US DECEPTION
Non-expansion of NATO document found


The media discovered a document guaranteeing the non-expansion of NATO to the East
February 18, 2022, 22:07Text: Vera Basilaya

A document has been found in the British National Archives that supports the Russian authorities' version that when Germany was unified, the Soviet Union was promised that NATO would not expand to the east, Der Spiegel reported.

The German publication Der Spiegel reported the discovery of an archival document, which, as the article says, reinforces the version of the Russian authorities that when Germany was unified, the Soviet Union was promised that NATO would not expand to the east.

The document was discovered in the British National Archives by the American political scientist, Boston University professor Joshua Shifrinson. Previously, it was stamped "Secret", but then it was declassified, the newspaper writes, Kommersant reports .


We are talking about the minutes of the meeting of the political directors of the foreign ministries of the United States, Great Britain, France and Germany, held in Bonn on March 6, 1991. The topic was security in Central and Eastern Europe.

According to Der Spiegel, the document makes it clear that the British, Americans, Germans and French agreed that Eastern European membership in NATO was "unacceptable."

“We made it clear at the 2 plus 4 negotiations (on the unification of Germany, with the participation of the FRG and the GDR, as well as the USA, USSR, Great Britain and France - approx. VIEW) that we are not expanding NATO beyond the Elbe (the text further specifies, that we are not talking about the Elbe, but about the Oder River - approx. VIEW). Therefore, we cannot offer Poland and the rest membership in NATO, ”the document cites the arguments of the political director of the German Foreign Ministry, Jurgen Chrobog.

According to Hrobog, this position was agreed with Federal Chancellor Helmut Kohl and Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher.

U.S. Representative Raymond Seitz, the document says, agreed: “We made it clear to the Soviet Union – in the 2 plus 4 talks, as well as in other negotiations – that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe ... NATO does not should expand to the east, neither formally nor informally.

The meeting participants agreed to strengthen the stability and security of Central and Eastern Europe through bilateral agreements with the countries of the region and within the framework of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE).

Recall that in December last year, President Vladimir Putin said that the North Atlantic Alliance "cheated" Russia when he promised not to allow advances to the East in the 90s of the XX century. “Not one inch to the east, we were told in the 90s. So what? They cheated! Just blatantly deceived. Five waves of NATO expansion. And now you are welcome - in Romania now, in Poland, appropriate systems are appearing, ”Putin said.



US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken claimed that the West allegedly did not guarantee Moscow that NATO would not expand eastward. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, following a meeting of the foreign ministers of the countries of the bloc, said that the North Atlantic Alliance would not compromise with Russia on key security issues, including the right of countries to join.

https://vz.ru/news/2022/2/18/1144446.html .


THIS DOCUMENTS SHOWS CLEARLY THE WEST IS PLANNING ON GASSING RUSSIANS AND KILLING CIVILIANS
Document showing Ukraine's interest and planning to gas Russians

Ukraine asks Turkey if Bayraktar UAV can ‘spray 20L of aerosol’
By Boyko Nikolov On Mar 31, 2022

Use link for actual document pretty much proving Ukraine was seriously considering using toxic substances on Russians.


https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/03/31/ukraine-asks-turkey-if-bayraktar-tb2-uav-can-spray-20l-of-aerosol/

SOFIA, ($1=1.76 Bulgarian Levs) — The Ukrainian company for the production of aircraft engines Motor-Sich has asked the manufacturer of the Turkish drones Bayraktar Akinci whether their drone [Bayraktar Akinci] is ‘equipped with a system/mechanism for spraying aerosol with a capacity of more than 20 liters?’ The information comes from the Bulgarian investigative journalist in the field of defense Dilyana Gaitandjieva and her post in Twitter, BulgarianMilitary.com has learned.

The journalist published a two-page document with questions from the Ukrainian producer – left and right side. The answers of the Turkish producer are on the right, in English. The document was signed by Mustafa Kosheoglu – coordinator and vice general manager of the Turkish manufacturer of Bayraktar Akinci Baykar.

Ukraine also asks whether Bayraktar Akinci is “capable of flying to distances of 300km?” As can be seen from the documents, the Turkish manufacturer answered both questions in the negative. The questions were asked by the Ukrainian senior contract engineer of Motor-Sich Vyacheslav Shuklin.

In her Twitter post, journalist Gaitandjieva recalled one of the claims of the Russian Ministry of Defense that “Bayraktars were planned to be adapted for spraying toxic substances over enemy territory.”

U.S. MILITARY BASES OVERSEAS
?THE FACTS
FACT SHEET PDF

[color=red]NUMBERS
750 military base sites estimated in around 80+ foreign countries and colonies/territories.
75-85% of the world’s foreign military bases; UK=145; Russia = 12-36; China = 8 (plus Tibet).[1][/color]
https://www.overseasbases.net/fact-sheet.html


I'm willing to discuss the merits of any war America has been involved in..

When looking at America's wars and Russia's. think about the reasons for the wars.

I'll start with the Spanish -American War.

After the War, the US Occupied Cuba and the Philippines. Almost immediately we granted Cuba its' independence. I forget the date , but the US told the Philippines, it it would be granted independence, at a not two future date.

Then Japan started it's move in the Pacific. IT was decided to put off the date.

I think it was Jully 4, 1946, that the Philippines were granted their indolence, without a shot being fired. I think we kept Guam.

A lot of American treasure and blood were expended during WW II. We had forces, around the Globe. We kept no land.

How much of the Globe did we keep?

The War ended with the USSR in control of Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria,, Hungry, Zelivka and East Germany

Those Countries were finally freed in 1991, 46 years after the occupation started. IT wasn't out of benevolence that the USSR moved out. The USSR had collapsed.

In Iraq and Afghanistan the US built hospitals, schools. How many schools did the USSR buildin Afghanistan?

Does ANYONE think that Putin will move out of all the territory they have captured in Ukraine? Thay haven't moved out of Georgia or Crimea.

IMO, Putin will keep most of has the has taken, of Ukraine.

Of course civilians have been kiledc in all the wars we have fought in., but the US didn't go to war to subjugate Countries.

IMO, Putin invaded Ukraine to subjugate it..

I'm for America, All The Way. Win first--take names and kick asses later.


B2B

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