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Re: Spyke37 post# 106211

Tuesday, 10/26/2021 4:28:23 PM

Tuesday, October 26, 2021 4:28:23 PM

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They were held in a court of law. How many times does such a simple concept have to be explained? All, I repeat, ALL, of the "VALIDATIONS" inclusive to the patents, were included AT THE TIME & POINT OF THE PATENT AWARDS!! THAT'S the JOB of the USPTO, ie, to prosecute ALL of the claims of the applicant. So then LATER....some of those claims were CHALLENGED by Apple & others, in the IPRs. Then there were trials held in court by a bogus, illegitimate, totally corrupt PTAB, an arm of the USPTO. The corruption of the PTAB was WELL KNOWN & is not in dispute. It took the ptab, 3 seperate judge panels & a full year to finally come up w/their "final ruling". In those rulings, the CHALLENGERS LOST THEIR CHALLENGES to the specific aspects of the patents that they challenged. Vplm was therefore successful in their defense of the challenges. But that is not the same as a "win", because they did not actually "win" anything. They only defended against the challenges. When it was over, vplm did NOT POSSESS anything more than what they already had to begin with upon having the patents issued. To repeat & conclude...vplm has possessed ALL THE VALIDATIONS that ever were with their patents from day one & never lost or gained anything more from the IPRs.

At one point, it was pointed out to me that they gained "estoppel" rights due to the IPRs. That may or may not be true but they have never benefitted from estoppel to my knowledge. If, during any future trials, they indeed do benefit from it, I would then concede that fact, but I find it very unlikely to occur for various reasons.

So now that I have explained that ea and every seperate aspect of validations were ALWAYS THERE to begin with, please explain to me of what legal benefit you find to exist due to the IPRs.
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