Well,
We are cluttering up the thread...
alangists being fascists or they defending themselves - two different topics no? You cannot separate the two. They chose an organisational model that 1) rallied the youth and 2)insisted that they keep strong powers in the unified government.. You say the breakdown I assume.. We need one of these, one of these... one of these ... this one can veto this... etc etc.. 3) The situation was completely different. Hitler cecame a dictator. That is not at all how the Lebanese govenrnment is/was. 4) Hitler was not surrounded by and overwhelming group that would murder you out of religious fervour. Authoritarian bent sure... fascist No.
are you implying that palestinians have no right to the land they were on? Nerver said that... for that entire transjordan mess we really have the British to thank but then again the Israelis were willing to settle without Jerusalem if you recall.. on a much smaller territory. Now you are too funny... It is wrong for the Christians to organise themselves so as not to be displaced.. It is bad for the Jews to do the same... but god bless the Palestianins... they can wantonly kill in the name of Palestine.. Some double standard.. What gicves then more right s than the other two groups ? and you know full well that is their avowed intent...
Our natives ? Sure we screwed them over... like so man has been doing to man since the start. The reservatin idea was bad though.. creating a group of dependent people.. I knew a few in highscholl, privat school.. wouldn't ya know they were just as smart as anyone else.. but that's an entirely different topic and I could even bring in the French Quebecers into that mess... :O)
any opinion can be back up and then proceed to act on it. Angry arab has an agenda... mayne sites like that... Zionist sites .. White supremacist sites.. etc.. That is what I mean.. If you really really dig though... you can get usefull corroborating info most of the time..
did i say that arab governments are saints? if you have been reading any angryarab you would know there is a lot of "management" of the arab governments by the west. how seriously one dimensional fella. Speaks well of them Arabs eh ? They have the oil... Tell the US to screw off ? Oh but we are actually a highly corrupt repressive regime... and we would lose our heads without US support... One dimensional ... not me my friend.. You seem to have stopped on dimension short on that one :O)
i know that part of the reason was to keep the flood of refugess from leaving by showing them it was better to stay and fight. who knows the reality behind that idea.
Stay and fight ? ???? Thirty years ? in camps.. to make a point .. while they subsidise lavish lifestyle for their own folks... How can they buy that claptrap, I don't. So how BTW is that Israel manipulating them ?
it seems that you are determined to paint me up some way. a liberal? whatever. do i think that jews are scum and sunshine comes out of the butts of arabs. sure of course. lol. Well that's good.. Another thing we can on... there is good and scum on both sides.
did i say that arab governments are saints? No but when I brought up the topic you put a lot of weight on the 45% Christian ratio to throw it back in my at me with the why am I not helping those Christians shot... Correct ? You know that is not a small error. It is huge. It would certainly have changed my thinking if I thought that way.
ally whom are we referring? G Bush and Dad w/ Saudis ... Grandad and Nazi Gemrnany Links.
-What Bashir Gemayyel Represents: the Legacy of Lebanese Fascism Fron The Angry Arab... comes up in Arabic... Got a link to English ? Hey French will do too...
Labelling folks fascusts is all to easy just like labelling them liberal.. I'm a liberal compared to a lot of the boards on SI but a right wing wacko on some issues on some 'Liberal' boards.. I've a pet peeve about labels.. since I raresly see anything in black and white.. .like the guy on SI calling Quebecers Nazis because of the language laws...
i thought you said you weren't a zionist? That's too funny..
it seems that you are determined to paint me up some way. a liberal? I don't even know what the word means anymore... It has been so misused and hijacked... I'm saying you are on one end of the boat and I'm on the other side in this case but much closer to the centre...
Anyway I gota be on te road @ 6:30 AM... Yikes...
Later
K
Mostly CASH and yield.. but solar Powered in the future :O)
