SIO, no confrontation. Maybe just different opinions. I am sure we (this obscure message board) are, all least, humans. Why would anyone would flat out lie about their unheard conversations here, unless they’re lying to themselves? Anyway, I think $NBEV speaks for themselves. Is NBEV a used car business with mlm lemmings worshiping the golden ring that never comes? That might work for investors, but BW is not Richard Rawlings. He does have the business acumen or the talented staff to turn junk companies into something desirable. So, I believe BW fails as a used car salesman, which seems to be his business model. NBEV's future is speculation, but its history speaks truth. Good luck to you.