I described it to the other guy on the board, have not heard back, hope he did not fall over board while dropping his first cage, Lol, and this one is a added feature, if you find you are loosing cages, like keep dropping them only to see the stock keep dropping I sell them all for a loss, like today, sold dust for loss, 5% loss, pulled 1k out, I take the 1k, that's down 5%, and put it into one of these, my long holds, floof, or 1933, and acumulte, then after 30 days, I will start dropping at dust again,