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Re: Goldenboy17 post# 62795

Wednesday, 09/09/2020 8:34:46 AM

Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:34:46 AM

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Quote: I've played with Tinker Toys. As everyone can see with their own eyes, this is no Tinker Toy. Please describe to me the difference between 'marine science and technology' and 'science and technology.'
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If it worked, they'd be encouraging the stockholders and telling the world. No such thing has occurred which is obvious.

The marine since and technology aspect has all to do with working in a marine saltwater environment and actual varying geological bottom and sub-bottom conditions. Not testing in some fish tank or backyard swimming pool. You tell me when this tinker toy was ever tested and calibrated on an actual colonial shipwreck site?

Quote: It's 13 years and one of my previous recent posts showed an example of something they learned. They are continuing to learn almost every day as they continue to improve on the SeaSearcher. It did take a while to learn that just about everybody in the industry is a short-sighted lying scumbag. That's cost the company a few times.
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They obviously haven't learned anything in 13 years. They've never found a shipwreck, never found treasure. If they had learned, they wouldn't naively by doing what they're doing. They would have assessed their field results with what actual documented research states, and then moved on a long time ago.

Quote: Cannons were traditionally found with the wreck and treasure because it was the only way to find the treasure because of the limitation of the existing technology. You had to find the big cannons to find the other parts, ID the wreck and hope for treasure on board. How many times did the cannons separate from or fall out of the wreck at a different time than the treasure? Maybe just a few hundred yards out of range. So a wreck could have broken apart, losing cargo and items at different times. So there could be treasure where there are no cannons and there could be cannons where there is no treasure. I don't think that all wrecks went down the same way and stayed together as a perfect little bundle of wreck material, cannons and treasure.
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Of course circumstances vary respective to how a shipwreck goes down. Not all cannons are going to necessarily be all there in the nucleus of a shipwreck site. In the case of a shipwreck with 32 cannons, a significant quantity are going to be within the site and its proximity. It doesn't require BIG cannons to be detectable in a magnetometer survey. A survey properly done by experiences professionals (not that I stated professionals) using a cesium marine magnetometer with altimeter (off-bottom height control) will detect even small ferro-magnetic targets and even (in many cases) ballast concentrations due to the igneous magnetite within the rocks. All notable historic treasure wrecks have been found with magnetometers when used by professionals. This tinker bell toy is all talk and hasn't found crap.


Quote: Pretty sure it was Greg Bounds who ran the original mag survey. Someone who you said was a good guy at one point. But as we all know now, almost everyone in this business is a lying scumbag. His survey was terrible and useless. Seafarer got their own equipment and had our guy from NASA run it. Many, many more hits that actually led to wreck material. But hunt and peck is no way to find treasure. And the functionality of the SeaSearcher has been addressed.
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I don't even know Greg Bounds. Never hear of him so how could I say he's a good guy? Woopie. They got their own equipment and had their guy from NASA run it. It seems to be just assumed that using the NASA card is some kind of magic word. That depends on many things. The 'NASA guy', what experience background did he have in conducting marine magnetometer surveys? What had her ever found? In making the statements as you do, you apparently have never done or been involved in marine survey work nor have you probably ever even seen a early period shipwreck. There is a procedure applied to a given area as defined by a magnetometer survey. This involves a stage two survey using ferrous / non-ferrous metal detection applications from surface boat or by divers. Great treasure wrecks have been found this way using proven methodology.

And no, I don't view SFRX as professionals in any way as they have achieved nothing and they don't deserve to even be called such.

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