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Sarmad

Maybe a tad early for such conclusions. There is a lot to consider.

First, the product introduced is at a development-point which AMD would probably not have launched as a product were it not a milestone in financial terms as well, i.e. to draw further tranches of loan-facilites. From this stance, its ramp might not be exactly as steep as many expect, if you know what i mean. ;)

Second, K8 until revision F was a great design for DDR-1, but not so great for DDR-2. So we can expect AMD has made changes in the memory system on revision G. However to make use of these it usually needs updated firmware and middleware (bios, drivers and stuff). When they shipped out CPUs for Previews (all saying preview for a product officially launched is telling) AMD could be pretty sure the reviewers would screw it up. Memory not running at full speed, timings not optimized, all this sort of stuff. And they could count on the habit of these chaps running their benchmark-tools (not even revised for the product) like monkeys and quickly post its readouts and draw conclusions from it without even checking basic settings of their systems. There are a few who would, though. Dimitri Besedjin, or Michael Schütte, e.g. AMD apparently did not ship CPUs to these.

Third, from what I see AMD does virtually nothing to promote its 65nm-product - which I understand as they want folks out there continue to buy 90nm. Bottom line, I believe the chaps at AMD know what they are doing and why.

So far I think it's fine and entertaining: The usual amplifiers of news go ballistic, everybody else can decide al gusto to add his speculation ad rem or ad personam comments - or to get couple good laughs from watching the scene.

If there is any conclusion you can draw from Brisbane it is for the current state of affairs of AMDs 65nm design and technology. On another thread i used the analogy of Brisbane as an ultrasound image of AMDs 65nm baby at its current stage. I do not see any indication for a down-syndrom or anything other bad. Some organs look big relative to others, some have not evolved at all yet. Nothing to worry about, but just as things develop usually. The fetus already got heartbeat. I do not hear anything suspicious, as well.

K.