Old Copper Co. Inc. (f/k/a CPPRQ/JCPNQ JC Penney)

[jondoe]

Of course shareholders can be left out, thats the whole point of the risk. If it were a sure thing the stock would already be at 5 dollars. Risk reward. What's in the shareholder favor, however, is the numbers. The assets, including 1.3 billion in cash and counting, real estate, a profitable business -- as seen by the 400 million made the previous quarter, inventory, annuities and insurance, goodwill, indicates value in all tiers of investors.