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Re: DimesForShares post# 186284

Saturday, 04/04/2020 8:40:15 PM

Saturday, April 04, 2020 8:40:15 PM

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Where did I go so terribly wrong?



I know this is a waste of time but I'll go ahead and try it anyways. Here's a breakdown of each sentence in the original post:

They talk about a way to take goo and turn it into a strong sheet that can be formed into 3-D materials.



Really? They're talk about turning "goo" into a "sheet" for 3-D materials? The sheets they are referring to in the paper are beta-sheets. It's the geometric secondary structure of proteins. Almost every protein molecule has portions of it's structure that are aligned in either b-sheets or a-helices. When the ribosomes begin translating the nucleotides into amino acids, those amino acids begin folding into shapes depending on the charges of their outside residues. The most common shapes are beta-sheets and alpha-helices. They are NOT talking about making "sheets" out of "goo".

The sheet has a high puncture resistance



Guess again. This isn't sheetrock, a metal sheet, or even a bed sheet. It's a shape of a portion of molecules within the larger protein. Depending on the spacing of each one of these beta-sheet portions in relation to the alpha-helices can give materials different properties. They know this is how spider silk has the properties it does, so they are trying to make an extremely simplified piece of this puzzle to see if it improves the properties of their material.

It’s hard to determine what their measurements actually mean, but they indicate stronger than spider silk.



No, they do not "indicate stronger than spider silk". I don't even know where you got that.

They report strength in compression, but bullet-proof materials need strength in extension.



I'm not sure what your trying to say. They never even mention bullet-proof anything in their paper.

In any case, KBLB will not benefit from this advance.



This might be the only thing you were correct about. But one caveat; no one in the spider silk space will benefit from these findings either.

Bolt threads might.



No, they won't. But don't ever miss an opportunity to take a jab at KBLB while trying to prop up the competition even when one knows nothing about the science and claims to be unbiased.

These scientists, "inspired" by spider silk structure, are attempting to scatter valine amino acids throughout a matrix in order to create beta sheets that have enough spacial distancing from each other within the amorphous matrix that it improves the performance of hydrogel/cryogel.

Note that these are not long beta-sheets connected by alpha-helices in a protein which IS the case with silk protein and even the analog silk proteins that Kraig Labs competitors use. And also note that there are countless types/shapes of beta-sheets and alpha-helices depending on the arrangement of the amino acids. Why would Bolt Threads attempt to add artificial beta-sheets to their analog proteins when they already have the right structure in their protein (albeit much shorter, and lower molecular weight than Kraigs protein) to begin with?

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