j5mith Monday, 02/10/20 05:08:43 PM Re: Po3sHare post# 2353 Post # of 2382 ...And for those that (as always) will reply about the list of stuff that Freedom Motors has developed but not applied for patents on: Presumably, the prospective investors that have looked at Moller International/Freedom Motors over the past few years have been able to see this. The fact that no one has put any money into the venture (see Dean's previous comments about how Paul seems to think that "joint ventures" work) suggests that the investors don't think that anything brilliant is in the vault. My post of January 6th shows a list of stuff supposedly in the vault at Freedom Motors, according to the Freedom Motors website. All of the supposedly patentable ideas are improvements to rotary engines. Since no one seems to be particularly interested in Freedom's rotary engines, it's not too much of a stretch to presume that no one is interested in the improved versions either. Think of the number of times over the past fifteen years or so that Freedom/Moller has claimed that some marvelous new thing is about to happen. Now, think about how many times that marvelous thing actually came to pass. Zero, right? (I don't consider the move from Davis to Dixon to be a marvelous thing). These guys lie the way that other people breathe. Nothing that they say is in any way credible.