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Re: RagingBobNY post# 7972

Friday, 10/18/2019 12:48:55 PM

Friday, October 18, 2019 12:48:55 PM

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Well, patent settlement $ relates to the amount of revenue generated from the enfringement. you say that market cap doesnt matter, but it is a direct relationship to revenue (happy to discuss earnings multiples for electronics in a separate thread). Im fine if my #'s of way off. Tell me what you think they should be. Im willing to change my estimates (i have estimates for each one based on units sold by year for each item that may be infringing. Comes to ~ $30MM from Huawei, $10MM from Amazon and $100MM X3(willful infringement) from Apple. remember... apple sold over 1.2B Iphones worldwide 2007 - 2017 and an additional ~200M in 2018 and a little less is projected for 2019. lets use 1B as a round #. Do you want to go with $.01 per phone or $.10 per phone 9 (assuming weighted avg prices around $600 as early phones were around $499 and went up over time). Do we exclude Ipads, & Iwatches? $.10 represents .016667% of total revenue per phone. Huawei from 2013-q2 2019, sold just shy of 1B units. Average prices are closer to $350 currently, and other then in the US are only going higher. Assume avg cost of $275. Amazon on the other hand is a little more unclear from a math perspective. Which products are covered in the suit. Fire stick (35M accounts, but v likely avg more then 1 per account. I have 4, just the facts). Kindle estimates are ambiguous but believed to be around 75M. Alexa estimates are ambiguously around 100M. Feel free to tell me specifically where im way off.
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