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plugger Member Level  Friday, 10/11/19 08:43:05 AM
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I am not being a royal pain in the butt here....but, got to thinking on "Prevenient Grace".....Now I am not arguing the point and I have read all about this subject...But sometimes folks are so well educated that they can confuse others....anyway....like I said I understand prevenient grace, yet, Paul in Romans says -- "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse" ....then Paul goes on with this thought----Now I am just rambling out loud here, sort of a brain exercise, I suppose one could say that seeing God's works is a form of prevenient grace....I understand the thought just don't know about this coming from the pulpit-----I am thinking more along the line of a lost sinner sitting in church,--" to me"-- a lost sinner should just hear that God loves them and forgives them, a message to sit the stage for the Holy Spirit to go to work....I understand that prevenient grace is taking place if the lost sinner understands, however, if the subject is way over one's head, the purpose is lost. I suppose I think more along the lines of the K.I.S.S. system.

Back years ago I ran my own small transportation businesses(3)----anyway, I was a firm believer in training our drivers, even if they had some previous experience---I wanted everyone on the same page...I/we started training with the simplest thing, this is the key and here is the ignition----I had some folks laugh and say how crazy this was (in friendly manner)---then one day I put a new guy in the tractor and he just sit there and sit there, finally ask what his problem was...."where is the ignition?---followed by where is the brake release?....just me and feel free to run me through the mill, but when I speak to a lost sinner and he/she listens to me, I already know God has spoken to their heart----to me they only need to know that God so loved the world that He allowed His Son to die for our sins......I have folks who think I know a fair bit about the Bible , actually I do not, everyday is a new learning experience, I believe that we all are on the road to heaven, we are just at different place on this journey, I am 76, been doing my Bible since 1990, maybe a little before, I do know that those just coming to Christ sure don't need to know how smart another is.

I got a bit off subject here, sorry-----but I do think sometimes some folks are educated beyond their intelligence ....my intelligence is not a matter of interest to a lost sinner, God's Grace is what is important

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