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Re: conix post# 325639

Thursday, 09/12/2019 7:59:36 PM

Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:59:36 PM

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You refuted neither and you ignored every verifiable historical fact in the article I posted.

The example of the IDF alone blows away the fearmongering nonsense in the article you posted.

Without doubt you would have been voicing the same lame, bigoted, contra-factual arguments against blacks and women serving in our armed forces.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces

LGBT people

Further information: Sexual orientation and military service § Israel

Israel is one of 24 nations that allow openly gay individuals to serve in the military. Since the early 1990s, sexual identity presents no formal barrier in terms of soldiers' military specialization or eligibility for promotion.[60][61]

Until the 1980s the IDF tended to discharge soldiers who were openly gay. In 1983 the IDF permitted homosexuals to serve, but banned them from intelligence and top-secret positions. A decade later, Professor Uzi Even,[62] an IDF reserves officer and chairman of Tel Aviv University's Chemistry Department, revealed that his rank had been revoked and that he had been barred from researching sensitive topics in military intelligence, solely because of his sexual orientation. His testimony to the Knesset in 1993 raised a political storm, forcing the IDF to remove such restrictions against gays.[60]

The chief of staff's policy states that it is strictly forbidden to harm or hurt anyone's dignity or feeling based on their gender or sexual orientation in any way, including signs, slogans, pictures, poems, lectures, any means of guidance, propaganda, publishing, voicing, and utterance. Moreover, gays in the IDF have additional rights, such as the right to take a shower alone if they want to.

According to a University of California, Santa Barbara study,[62] a brigadier general stated that Israelis show a "great tolerance" for gay soldiers. Consul David Saranga at the Israeli Consulate in New York, who was interviewed by the St. Petersburg Times, said, "It's a non-issue. You can be a very good officer, a creative one, a brave one, and be gay at the same time."[60]

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