hell.they might be setting us back 5-10 years. that's been my thesis all along: that by 2004 they'll have rolled the clock back to 1992. then they could redo 92-00 in the right way. it takes the right leadership and vision. there *is* vision in place now. and, although its goals might be lofty, the road there is entirely machiavellian. (e.g. wolfawitz)