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Re: boston745 post# 24788

Monday, 06/24/2019 10:38:43 AM

Monday, June 24, 2019 10:38:43 AM

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I dunno. Recognizing corrosion as an issue was the easy part. This is the hard part to wrap the head around. There's 2 reactions taking place simultaneously. oxidization and reduction between an anode and cathode. Imparting the corrosion effect to one and a reduction effect to the other. Potentially turning a fully oxidized metal back into a metal and oxidizing the other.



But if and once this reaction takes place you may be playing a different ball game. IE implant a titanium metal with an aluminum oxide and you may end up with a titanium oxide and aluminum metal IN THEORY. I havent been bothered to crunch the numbers here to determine nobility or who ends up a cathode or anode. This example also exists in a relative vacuum compared to implanted in the body

Throw in the fact Calcium in the bone is a metal. Iron exists in the blood etc. and the water gets muddy on potential reactions in loss or gain of electrons.

The body is also electrically charged and contains electrolytes. Creating a perfect environment for reactions. I would say this is a highly corrosive environment. Exposed to electrolyte, electricity, oxygen in the blood, a slightly alkaline state of the blood. etc.

More corrosive and difficult of environment than working in the ocean. Think rust pitting on firearms exposed to blood.

A coating of anything. would seem to outperform since it would be completely similar and avoid a galvanic corrosion incident between itself provided this was performed in a vacuum. This doesn't seem a place where "similar enough" metals work. or "highly resistant to corrosion or reaction" metals even works. Otherwise Chrome cobalt on a titanium stem would have no problems. This is the common school of thought concerning everything else. Chrome seems noble titanium seems noble and they look similar enough to avoid corrosion. Maybe on a trailer hitch or even a boat.

Given the right environment gold oxide is a thing. The most noble of metal. I wouldnt consider atmosphere a brutal environment and silver polish is a thing. Chrome polish is a thing.

Consider Silicon is considered a metalloid and semiconductive in it's raw form and this does not suggest we can completely transcend the issue and negate redox. It suggests it's less noble and would play the role of the sacrificial anode as a metalloid? Possibly offering a DECREASE IN OXIDATIONthrough cathodic protection? (Is this what we're seeing in decreased oxidation of a peek liner? or just oxygen scavenging?)

We need to start asking these questions. where do metalloids exist on a table of galvanic series. Where is my complete table of galvanic series?(cheat sheets) where is my complete table of mohs hardness? Why are we not worried about completing these tables and easily accessing them like we do with elemental table?

This is all just sloppy and lazy so far like when the IT dept. suggests you pay the bitcoin ransom. Suggesting they have not brought dishonor.

Nor am I speaking on this as authority. For me this is like staring into the dark and trying to tell you what I see here.
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