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Re: mr_sano post# 46940

Wednesday, 04/24/2019 12:29:45 PM

Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:29:45 PM

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Yours is an absurd argument that still doesn't show any understanding of density as it relates to viscosity. For example: water is more dense than honey. Honey is far more viscous than water. Yet I can add water to the honey making the mixture more dense than honey at the same time the mixture becomes less viscous than honey. Please use "your" laws of nature to explain that.

Clearly, the reduction of viscosity does not require the reduction of density in a liquid.

The fact that a less viscous diluant can be mixed with a more viscous crude oil resulting in a viscosity somewhere in between the two, does in no way disprove Tao's theories.

What a crock this is:

So if Qsep doesn’t add heat...doesn’t change the density then it’s only claim is that it’s few micro amps of an electric field suddenly creates a freeway of clumped hydrocarbons surrounded by more space allowing some sort reduction of intermolecular forces. Here where Mother Nature says nope sorry! This phenomena of clumping has never been observed by any real academic other than Tao’s henchmen or third world students trying to copy his whacky theories.



The whole idea that Dr. Tao is somehow the only one out there using electric fields to do amazing things with the viscosity of liquids is ridiculous. There is a whole field of science that has sprung up from the study of just that. It is called electrorheology.

From Wikipedia:

Electrorheological (ER) fluids are suspensions of extremely fine non-conducting but electrically active particles (up to 50 micrometres diameter) in an electrically insulating fluid. The apparent viscosity of these fluids changes reversibly by an order of up to 100,000 in response to an electric field. For example, a typical ER fluid can go from the consistency of a liquid to that of a gel, and back, with response times on the order of milliseconds.[1] The effect is sometimes called the Winslow effect after its discoverer, the American inventor Willis Winslow, who obtained a US patent on the effect in 1947[2] and wrote an article published in 1949.[3]



More from Wikipedia:

The effect is better described as an electric field dependent shear yield stress. When activated an ER fluid behaves as a Bingham plastic (a type of viscoelastic material), with a yield point which is determined by the electric field strength. After the yield point is reached, the fluid shears as a fluid, i.e. the incremental shear stress is proportional to the rate of shear (in a Newtonian fluid there is no yield point and stress is directly proportional to shear). Hence the resistance to motion of the fluid can be controlled by adjusting the applied electric field.



What about the claim that if Tao's theories had merit there would be all sorts of products rolled out by various companies taking advantage of the ability to control viscosity in some liquids?

Also from Wikipedia:

The normal application of ER fluids is in fast acting hydraulic valves[9] and clutches, with the separation between plates being in the order of 1 mm and the applied potential being in the order of 1 kV. In simple terms, when the electric field is applied, an ER hydraulic valve is shut or the plates of an ER clutch are locked together, when the electric field is removed the ER hydraulic valve is open or the clutch plates are disengaged. Other common applications are in ER brakes[10] (think of a brake as a clutch with one side fixed) and shock absorbers[11] (which can be thought of as closed hydraulic systems where the shock is used to try to pump fluid through a valve).

There are many novel uses for these fluids. Potential uses are in accurate abrasive polishing[12] and as haptic controllers and tactile displays.[13]

ER fluid has also been proposed to have potential applications in flexible electronics, with the fluid incorporated in elements such as roll-able screens and keypads, in which the viscosity-changing qualities of the fluid allowing the roll-able elements to become rigid for use, and flexible to roll and retract for storing when not in use. Motorola filed a patent application for mobile device applications in 2006.[14]



The last sentence above that is underlined is interesting not just because of the product but its timing. The patent was filed in 2006 and it is only yesterday that this appeared in the Wall Street Journal:

Samsung Electronics Co. delayed the rollout of its Galaxy Fold (roll-able screens and keypads) because of technical problems just days ahead of its planned launch, a blow to the hardware giant and its hopes for a product it billed as one of the smartphone market's biggest innovations in years.



The dates from patented technology to product introduction are eerily similar to the AOT. Some would like to make us believe that it just takes a snap of the fingers to perfect the applications of new technologies. Even with access to the enormous resources at Samsung it isn't always easy.
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