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Re: JohnCM post# 49

Friday, 03/29/2019 10:48:31 PM

Friday, March 29, 2019 10:48:31 PM

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I saw you ask this question and thought I would come over here to try to clarify.

Is there is difference between CBD derived from cannabis or hemp?



There is no difference in CBD derived from marijuana vs. hemp. Both plants are cannabis and CBD is just a molecule. However, CBD is not what these companies are selling unless you are talking only about isolates. These companies are selling hemp extract that contains high amounts of CBD(hopefully). There is a whole bunch of stuff other than CBD in the extracts. Terpenes, flavonoids, fatty acids, over 80 other cannabinoids and more are in these extracts(also hopefully).

There are currently three kinds of hemp; Hemp for fiber, hemp for seed, and hemp for cannabinoids. Each type is bred for it's particular end use. You can derive cannabinoids, including CBD, from fiber and seed hemp but there are all kinds of problems with this. Additionally, when only using seed and stalk for cannabinoid extraction, you will end up with even less cannabinoid content in favor of more byproducts and contaminants.

Cannabinoid rich hemp is also terpene rich hemp. The other two kinds of hemp do not pack anywhere near the same kind of terpene content. This is massively important. The entourage effect is not a catch phrase, it is the whole point of taking hemp extract. CBD is just one component.

The true way to compare all of these different hemp extract products would be for all the companies to show us chemical profiles of their products so that we can see which has more of each cannabinoid and terpene. Instead of asking what the difference is in "CBD" from different sources or different companies, I suggest trying to gauge what the difference is in their product's entire chemical profile. That will hopefully be how the industry develops to further discern the brands from each other.

CVSI will have to change the type of plants that they source from. That does not mean they will need to become farmers but it does mean that they will need to buy CBD rich hemp from domestic producers. Dowling knows this, so I'm not sure why he complained about other companies not using seed-fiber hemp. I'm sure he will try to switch to domestically produced CBD rich hemp whenever he can find the right supplier and/or pricing. CVSI will be looking to buy CBD rich hemp from growers like CWBHF, but CWBHF in particular wont sell their plants.

My problem with CVSI's production system is that, IMO, there is something not true about it. They are either doing something differently than they claim or the product doesn't contain all that it should. There is no way they are only using seeds and stalks from seed-fiber hemp and getting anything comparable to something like CWBHF or Bluebird, who use the whole plant and cannabinoid rich hemp. CVSI's choice of hemp also likely increases the concentrations of heavy metals and microbes, so I am sure they have to put much effort into "cleaning" the product before selling it.

Instead of asking what the difference is in "CBD" from different sources or different companies, I suggest asking what the difference is in their product's entire chemical profile.

Regardless, I think the main production question for CVSI going forward is what is going to be the difference in cost to source more expensive hemp domestically. Save money on shipping but pay more for the plants? I don't know, but I think admitting the direction that they have to go would be more stand-up than complaining about the better hemp others use while they are gonna have to make the change to do the same anyway.

So, when I rant on about the different quality of different hemp sources, I'm not referring to the quality of the extracted CBD molecules, I'm referring the quality of the entire hemp extract that will be ingested in the end.

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