I won't say who, but someone real close want to learn to make moonshine, just to say he did it, he did his research, built the stuff to make it, turned out to be 180 proof, would burn and leave no residue,,,I never tasted it, I was afraid to even put it on my finger. After he learned to do it real good, he quit, only wanted to see if he could do it and then people talk tooooooo much, he isn't built for jail time---handsome young guys don't do well in prison