kthomp19 Saturday, 01/12/19 10:31:27 PM Re: Fully Diluted post# 491681 0 Post # of 527803 Quote:In our case, there is no doubt at all that Freddie rejected the bailouts and was forced to accept them. This is evidenced by email communication that was revealed. The boards of directors, both Fannie's and Freddie's, consented to the conservatorships. Whether they were coerced is not in question when it comes to any current court case, to my knowledge. Which email communication are you referring to? Quote:Shareholders had rejected the take-over because F+F had their CHARTERS with the implicit government guarantee. When did the shareholders ever have a chance to vote on conservatorship? Quote:If the FHFA is judged unconstitutional, the conservatorship will most likely burst from the start. Only if a lawsuit actually challenges the entirety of HERA as unconstitutional. To date, no case actually has. Who, then, is going to judge the entire agency unconstitutional with no case actually in front of them requesting it? Quote:Yes kthomp, it is more than 58 billion dollars. Think of the taxes Fannie paid in 2013. Those taxes would have been paid even if the companies were out of conservatorship. Taxes are a non-issue and don't change any of the numbers.