I THINK... fair value is $1.79 per SIAF share TODAY. IF the trade division succeeds, we can make it $2.50. IF they get the $100M loan, the value goes up again. IF we get substantially more ODRAS, the value goes up. IF we get the cooperatives, it will be big. And I will have to consult with Benjamin Graham. Same applies to AF4/5 IF they ever get it up and running. In general, I THINK the dividend shares will be worth $10 (per SIAF share now) with an IPO in Hong Kong. Best guess, for now. That does not mean I'm confident about an IPO because I'm not. Without it, who knows, PERHAPHS we can sell it for $5. It seems like too much hoping and predicting became your second nature. Like I said, you can value it whatever you want. I don't care anymore.