Greenleaf you are spot on. I got scammed but learned my lesson. Even if you say it's going to $.02 then you're still lying to yourself about a company that makes an occasional part for the military is a $8,000,000 company on sales that are in the hundreds of thousands. Math isn't that hard people. Anybody that says it's going up is just a paid fluffer and irrelevant to the discussion. We're trying to be serious investors and you have King of the Village Idiots ramble on about how this company is just waiting to explode. It's all a scam, always has been. Take one look at the financing and who they pay (online pumper company 10K a month in the form 1,500,000 shares to dump). It's a shell and that's it.