Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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(edit) >> destabilized a tribal but mostly peaceful country. The facts are obvious, it wasn't happening before we showed up <<

The facts are not apparently not obvious if you are calling Saddam's rule mostly peaceful.

There were not cracks there were major structural flaws before we went. I do not disagree in the slightest that we should not have gone in, but whether we stay or go I don't think it'll matter much at this point. Short term it would be worse, but ultimately whatever is going to happen is going to happen unless the US want to commit 20+ years and bring back the draft. Not going to happen. Might as well withdraw now and at least save some of our troops.

>> Just because it is now possible for the Moslem sectarians to kill each other without fear of law and order, doesn't mean they have to kill each other <<

They were going to regardless. Saddam (Sunnis minority) brutally ruled over the majority for quite some time. There was going to be payback. We just sped up the process. I agree we were quite naive going in.