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Re: cinnamonpee post# 31892

Friday, 05/11/2018 5:50:33 PM

Friday, May 11, 2018 5:50:33 PM

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The easy explanation or at least the way I understand it.
No expert, but basically privy simply means they have knowledge of it and control is more able to do anything about it..
Now that is super simplified...

here is a related article.
I stopped sharing DD ..but here you go
should be an interesting read considering it directly correlates to PTAB
RPI rulings. Which is why I think the Judges talking about Privy in CAFC is so key

http://www.ptablaw.com/2016/08/11/ptab-real-party-interest-issues-guidance-supreme-court/

This is particular a phrase to read from that

The PTAB also has referenced exception (2) but has struggled with what “pre-existing legal relationships” are sufficient to apply this exception. A vendor-reseller relationship is not sufficient, even when the nonparty pays counsel fees and participates in the trial. See Sipnet, IPR2013-00246.



ATVI is pretty much a Vendor-Reseller as ATVI is the exclusive reseller of Bungie's Destiny IP. The CAFC Judges totally opened the door and wanted the lawyer for WDDD to give them a good reason to vacate. Spelled it out for them, privy not control, the above quote or any stats they could have produced

So, why has the PTAB seldom found that an unnamed party is a real party-in-interest or a privy?

if they had compiled some stats on this, give them compelling reason to vacate instead of remanding so procedure would be followed. WHo knows maybe the lawyers did give them enough reason, we will all find out when they hand down decision.

You know where I stand.