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Thursday, 07/05/2001 10:55:06 PM

Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:55:06 PM

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Re: hoij, you are very wrong
by: MST_2000
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 07/05/01 07:37 pm
Msg: 123659 of 123678

"When people are extremely nasty and disgusting in their posts to me, I know they are just trying to hide the negative truth from other investors so they can rip them off."

Actually, when people are nasty and disgusting in their posts to you, it has nothing to do with hiding anything, or ripping anybody off. That's classic Mary-think -- it's not enough that we're all losers to you, no, in your world we have to be criminals too. But the truth is that most longs who follow this Board (and the other ASTN boards) are just long on the stock. And we see your presence here as motivated either by money or mental illness (because we cannot discern any other reason why you bother) and we see it as hurtful to the company and our interests as investors.

Personally, I think some of the longs are unable to see you except in terms that are disgusting and crude. You have every right to be upset by crude posts that have been fired your way - just as I have every right to be upset by ridiculous pictures of me that you fabricated and posted here several times, and other nasty falsehoods that you have posted about me on these message boards. Of course, if you've observed the behavior that takes place on Yahoo message boards, you would probably have noticed by now that you are not the first person to be on the receiving end of such crap, and, as a result, you might be less inclined to interpret the uglier posts through that uniquely distorted, narcissistic looking glass that colors everything you see. And you would also notice that rudeness is by no means limited to the longs - one loser thinks it's funny to refer in his posts to Fred's deceased son, and another thinks calling you a skank or referring to an abortion you may or may not have had is clever. Whatever. Each of us can only be responsible for our own behavior, ultimately. As much as I disagree with 95% of what you have written here, I have acted in a civil manner -- but that hasn't stopped you from making harsh (and false) personal attacks on me. So when you characterize the behavior of others as nasty and disgusting, forgive us if we take it with a big grain of salt.

Do you seriously think the cruder longs post what they do because they want to hide what you label as "the truth" in order to rip people off? You're kidding, right? Here's how most of us see it: So much of what you post here is a ridiculous distortion built on the flimsiest reed of fact (usually having little or nothing to do with ASTN), and when anybody takes issue with you, they get villianized and incorporated into your conspiracy theory. When we fight back, you become even more shrill. By your account, the payroll for people out to discredit the "truth according to Mary" must be higher than ASTN's burn rate.

I have said many times that this particular speculation may or may not work out, but if it doesn't, it won't be for lack of trying or bad faith. While you seem to have conceded in recent weeks that ASTN at least has a legitimate product (that SEC approval and that 8 Million share day makes it awfully hard to deny that, huh?), the remainder of the picture you paint bears only the slightest resemblence to reality. And the irony is that you would have plenty to work with if all you really wanted to do was inform people about issues they should be concerned with before they invest in this company.

Hoji is the perfect example of someone who has dispassionately spoken his mind, both positive and negative, and has stuck inexorably to what he believes is the truth. And I cannot recall one occasion where he was vilified by longs for expressing a negative perspective. He has carefully researched this investment and is well aware of the negatives and positives. Somehow, and this is just a guess on my part, I don't think his careful research and your version of "the truth" have anything but the most superficial connection.

MST

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Sara

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." - Harry Truman

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