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Re: terry hallinan post# 358

Tuesday, 01/23/2018 11:41:40 AM

Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:41:40 AM

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I'd think it'd be hard to get kicked there sitting on a horse. After thousands of horses and many of them kicking, biting, standing on me I do feel your pain and have also been kicked there (and everywhere else). I currently live in MN which I consider an IQ test and since I stayed here I failed.
As I said; pain management in dogs has been a focus of mine for years so there aren't many published studies I haven't read nor meetings I haven't attended. Here's what I know and you can discard some or all but you'll need a different (almost any) subject to educate me.
Many vets use Dasuquin first as no side effects and some dogs do improve on it. It is classified as a nutriceutical which means they can make claims without proving anything and are almost never tested for content. At one point a university tested 60 different brands with similar ingredients and only 3 had anywhere close to what the label claimed. Some had none of the claimed ingredients. Whether the glucosamine, chondroitin, avocado do anything has been debated for years: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16999714
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5356289/
MSM has been proven ineffective in dogs. The NSAIDS are a whole different ball game. Much more effective but some side effects that can be deadly in a very few dogs so occasional blood tests warranted.. Previcox slightly safer as only affects 1 Cox instead of 2. Every dog I've treated I start on dasuquin and if or when no effect switch to NSAIDS. You will always see remarkable improvement at that time. Different NSAIDS will work better on different dogs. Recently it was discovered that any side effects will usually occur in first 2 weeks. Current thinking is better to treat early and longer instead of waiting for arthritis to progress too far.
Enter Galliprant with very limited side effects and very good safety. Now all it has to prove is that it can be as effective. My guess is the new trail of treatment will be dasuquin, galliprant, classic NSAIDS. BY THE WAY; WEIGHT LOSS, FISH OIL AND EXERCISE, ESP SWIMMING DOES WONDERS FOR THESE GUYS. Apologize to you and everyone else for length but you baited me. 8<) And thank you for your service.

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