Travelinglady, If I may interject here, I think you may be confusing Liz & Toonces. They are separate ladies here, while Liz & Cisco are the same. Toonces is the NY girl ~;^}. If I make mistake, 'scuse pleez %^). ~FloridaFred, former NY Yankee (who may also return during the holidays) P.s. LMRI is not a Liz either. :)~