Here is another email from John expanding on the last one. Subj: RE: NV Date: 6/19/2001 2:40:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: jhowell@newvisual.com (John Howell) To: EXCELGREG@cs.com Greg, As soon as I hit the send button I knew you would come back with that question. 1. a contract with revenues 2. institutional investors 3. joint venture development agreement 4. strategic alliance 5. industry investors 6. media campaign 7. influential individuals 8. 10,000 loyal shareholders Put all that in a giant mixer and extract any 2 or 3 you want and the results will speak for themselves. John Excel - Greg