Yes Rocky18, I remember hearing about a new CEO, possibly about 2 years or so ago, on one of those UTube presentations. Now he also mentions a CFO and I believe David Campiti is the COO. I am wondering if they could work some sort of an arrangement with Rick Strom. Something similar to the Markiplier arrangement, basic salary increases on performance of company, options to buy stock, seat on BOD, some "Z" shares, a free ZwagBox each month, an increase in take from POWfolio once a certain income target is reached. Strom appears to me as someone that can complete a job. I definitely would be comfortable with him. As far as getting out of debt, I do not know if they have tried the SBA, Small Business Administration. Trump seems to want to favor getting women into business to a greater degree so maybe they could send down Jenna and Dave's wife for some start up money. lol. Take care Rocky18. Tlsmd.