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Chipguy: Ryzen is a huge improvement...

And I agree with you they have no where to go but up. But Mas is right about inertia in the workstation/server area. And I think it gets worse the lower down the stack they go. They won't be able to clock as high as Intel's 4 core parts and their supposed desktop TDP advantage will not be as apparent(I would predict its worse than Intel by a fair amount) in lower voltage parts. Intel has really led with laptop parts for the last 7 years. And I believe their advantage is greatest there because of all the 2 in 1 engineering Intel has done. And in volume desktops in retail, AMD has no advantage. They have shown they have lower IPC for the most part and they look like they will be where they are now, leftover crumbs. Sure they aren't as far behind as their last shitty generation but they don't promise any particular new advantages either. They will continue to sell low priced alternative skus to keep Intel honest with the various OEMs. One of the killer parts out their is the 7th gen dual core Pentium part with HT and Core i3s that START with 3.5GHZ and peak at 4.2 ghz base clock! Not a lot of room for AMD to wiggle in.