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Sunday, 01/22/2017 8:50:16 AM

Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:50:16 AM

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Good morning, decatsmeow,
You've already been beaten up for your post for reasons that actually make a lot of sense to me, so I'm not going to give you unconditional support here. However, in a discussion board where everyone appears to be of the same opinion**...

**I will even admit that I am in this group, as I couldn't imagine the Winthers, Perlingos, and TCA's 8 million shares (needed to get to within just a couple of percentage points of a majority of outstanding shares) would accept anything under a $10 million valuation for the company based upon historical sales numbers, so that's about 11 cents per share on a 90 million share base.

...the minority point of view, namely yours, does need to be respected, and here is where I find basis to your being cautious in your outlook:
1. If I remember correctly, ijoy which is a Chinese company just screwed over VHUB, so what would give the Winthers any faith that a second Chinese company would be any better predisposed towards good behavior?

2. While I disagree with your general theme that VHUB doesn't give a shit about its shareholders - after all, the Winthers etc. are themselves very significant shareholders and their stock value can't increase unless yours increases as well, not to mention all the internet-radio shows that the company did awhile ago to stimulate broader interest in the stock - I do think that communication about attempts to mitigate the FDA regulatory mess and about sales and earnings targets could/should have been better all along.

3. Nobody passed a law dictating that you need to report your transactions and holdings to this community, and it is bad manners to beat on you for posting your trading activities here, all the more so since you are going as far as to report your reasoning.

4. ...and I do agree with you that anyone whose PM to you is on the mean side probably is making your point about how a diverse opinion is required to maximize the usefulness of any forum. Still, whatever sin you committed to be disciplined by the overseer is something for you to ponder going forward, along with the prior responses to your post (sorry if that comes across as self-important, believe me I have a lot to learn about posting).

Overall, I disagree with a lot of what's in your post, and I do believe that VHUB shareholders will see gains from where the stock is sitting this morning, because if the PLY transaction folds, there is a lot of reason to believe that the traditional tobacco companies will jump in. Still, your reminders that you weren't the only person selling on Friday and its corollary that money can be lost as well as won need to be respected. If there were certainty, the share price would just stay at that level, and bid and ask prices would be identical. ...and that ain't happening in our lifetimes.