thanks duke do you know for how long saly was dark? I own shares of a company that's been dark for about a year and a half, with not yet much to brag about...solid managerial and bod experience though imagine it all depends on whether the growth is merger-related or organic apparently, "going dark" is a great way to capture the company on the cheap, and to create happy shareholders, provided patience is in the mix hopefully, we'll all have a chance to witness it here rvue