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Re: Buppy16 post# 46511

Tuesday, 12/27/2016 11:17:10 PM

Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:17:10 PM

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Buppy, I sincerely believe what I've read in the AM market. There is a lot of test and evaluation still taking place. Sigma Labs has been way ahead of the curve doing independent quality assurance. The latest guidance for America Makes and ANSI is just scratching the surface of in process quality. I remember writing to Lloyd's Register in Jan 2016 when they came out with their AM Guidance book. I emailed their team and they claimed to have a keen interest in how in-line inspection was developing.
I was quite surprised and started to realize SGLB has quite a head start on the competition. See part of my email. I had to X out the names

Lxxx,

Thanks much for your response. I was more curious about the in-line inspection that ensures the quality of the part being built to design intent. I see that I was mistook the in-service inspection for in-line inspection. Was in-line inspection considered in the Guidance Notes? Is it is another section that I overlooked; maybe, control of production? I was curious about what vendors products were evaluated.

I'm an investor in the AM sector and aware that in-line quality assurance is critical to the AM market moving forward into mass production of parts. I'm particularly interested in vendors that maybe addressing this need such as Sigma Labs and any others. I was interested in what vendors were evaluated in determining the Guidance Notes for in-line inspection if you are at liberty to say. I certainly understand if you are unable to reveal any vendors or products utilized; however, I'm interested if in-line inspection is addressed in the current guidance and where or will it be evaluated and addressed in future guidance.

Regards,
Axxxx

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:57 AM, xxxxx, Lxxx <lxxx.xxxxxx@lr.org> wrote:
Hi Axxxxx,

Thanks for reaching out. I wanted to clarify with you – 11.4 refers to in-service inspection (i.e. once a part is completely built, and implemented in a live environment), rather than in-line inspection (during the build process).

Does this still align with your question below?

The team would be happy to have a further chat as we have a keen interest with in-line inspection and how it’s developing.

Best,

Lxxx Xxxxxx
Senior Specialist, Global Technology Centre, Lloyd’s Register Energy



Hi Axxxxx – apologies again for the delay in response.

Although we considered the inclusion of in-line inspection methods in our first version of the Guidance Notes, we decided that given our view of the printer/machine as a key variable in the manufacturing process, in-line inspection would not reduce our post-build inspection requirements at this time.

We are pursuing investigation and validation of in-line inspection methods (i.e. testing that in-line processes are as reliable as post-completion processes) and measurement of how these may positively impact the confidence in a AM part in the future. The timeframe for this investigation and validation should be over the next 12-18 months, and will rely on cooperation from software and hardware vendors.

The team and I would be happy to discuss further, and in addition, we’d be happy to keep you in the loop for future development cycles of industry guidance on AM.

Best,

Lxxx Xxxxxxxx


I believe Mark when he spoke of the many AM delays as I've seen AM articles which discussed AM supply chain issues. SGLB is still waiting on those AM standards to be developed to provide a way forward for companies. This is a big reason why I've been excited about the IPQA being built into the ICME framework. There are many companies which utilize this ICME framework in their manufacturing process. I truly believe that IPQA will triumph as this will be a framework used by the military, governments and commercial entities. The in-line inspection for AM is coming as IMHO GE will be the first to utilize it once they begin full scale production. I see all this ramping up and evaluation phase as solidifying the process. IMHO GE can't continue to break and inspect parts for quality as those fuel nozzles start ramping up into the thousands.
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