i am confused about something. RPH responded to our-street, and pointed out that this www.samgrp.com copied off of CVSU. ok, fine i think... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. but then i checked the whois database. here is www.samgrp.com Domain Name: SAMGRP.COM Registrar: TUCOWS INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Referral URL: <A HREF="http://domainhelp.tucows.com" target="_blank">http://domainhelp.tucows.com</A> Name Server: NS2.FASTDNS.NET Name Server: NS1.FASTDNS.NET Status: ACTIVE EPP Status: ok Updated Date: 03-Nov-2005 Creation Date: 02-Nov-2005 Expiration Date: 02-Nov-2007 here is www.cvsu.us Domain Name: CVSU.US Domain ID: D7912282-US Sponsoring Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: 39096528 Registrant Name: Songwi Trust Registrant Organization: Songwi Trust Registrant Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Registrant City: Adairsville Registrant State/Province: GA Registrant Postal Code: 30103 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Country Code: US Registrant Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Registrant Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Registrant Email: no.valid.email@worldnic.com Registrant Application Purpose: P1 Registrant Nexus Category: C32/US Administrative Contact ID: 39096528 Administrative Contact Name: Songwi Trust Administrative Contact Organization: Songwi Trust Administrative Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Administrative Contact City: Adairsville Administrative Contact State/Province: GA Administrative Contact Postal Code: 30103 Administrative Contact Country: United States Administrative Contact Country Code: US Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Administrative Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Administrative Contact Email: no.valid.email@worldnic.com Administrative Application Purpose: P1 Administrative Nexus Category: C32/US Billing Contact ID: 39096529 Billing Contact Name: Rufus Harris Billing Contact Organization: Conversion Solutions, Inc. Billing Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Billing Contact City: Adairsville Billing Contact State/Province: GA Billing Contact Postal Code: 30103 Billing Contact Country: United States Billing Contact Country Code: US Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Billing Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Billing Contact Email: harris@cvsu.us Technical Contact ID: 39096528 Technical Contact Name: Songwi Trust Technical Contact Organization: Songwi Trust Technical Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Technical Contact City: Adairsville Technical Contact State/Province: GA Technical Contact Postal Code: 30103 Technical Contact Country: United States Technical Contact Country Code: US Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Technical Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Technical Contact Email: no.valid.email@worldnic.com Technical Application Purpose: P1 Technical Nexus Category: C32/US Name Server: NS51.WORLDNIC.COM Name Server: NS52.WORLDNIC.COM Created by Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Last Updated by Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 09 19:59:14 GMT 2005 Domain Expiration Date: Mon Jun 08 23:59:59 GMT 2015 Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 09 19:59:40 GMT 2005 so if CVSU.US was created <u>after</u> who copied who?