Thanks, I appreciate your response. Your estimate of scam situations is at the 99% level, and my estimate has been at about the 60% level, with another 20% of the sub-penny market companies being just plain unsuccessful, with no overt attempt to defraud anybody. We'd agree that, even in scam and "unsuccessful company" situations, money can be made via trading, whether done on technical factors, a good "guess" that a pump and dump is about to take place, being a market-maker, or just luck.
I've seen VHUB as being a legitimate company, having had no attempt to defraud in roughly the past two years, after the pump and dump when, I'm guessing, the Dog-Inn owners were trying to get out quickly, profitably, and illegally. I've also believed that the conversion prices until now have been set sufficiently high that there would be more money made by seeing the company be successful than by just getting rid of the shares ASAP after acquiring them via conversion.
The company has been trying to get more equity-centered than debt-centered for nearly a year now, based upon press releases of nearly exactly a year ago. ...and they have not been providing progress reports, which I would find to be disconcerting. Not providing information often tips the scales from the unsuccessful category to the scam category. Nonetheless, presuming the integrity of our vape-shop posters (and there seems to be convincing evidence of their integrity), there are real products of high quality being produced and sold, so I would believe that the company will either find the equity infusion or be outright-sold before too long.
In either case, you've provided your underlying logic rather than just going with the mantra of "scam," and since you've been right from the time of your having turned bearish, your opinions are to be respected (whether or not anyone might agree or disagree with them).
