Look at this PALR chart, Subbers..... I was kiddin' with K, but this looks at or near bottom. EMA's inside the Bollies..... <img src=http://chart.etrade.com/cgi-bin/rgraph?Symbol=PALR&olay=Boll20&gr=1&e2=50&e3=200&i1=MACD&i2=MACDHist&i3=Stochastic&i4=OBV&tic=10-day>