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Re: eaglesurvivor post# 1370

Thursday, 07/13/2006 1:35:58 PM

Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:35:58 PM

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unfortunately eagle..

if one opens a social security account before that one is of legal age..

try undoing what had been done by one's legal guardian..


also


social security is not a contract..


Some people argue that when they applied for a SSN, they "unknowingly" entered into a "contract" with SSA and that by rescinding their number they absolve themselves of any commitment they may have unknowingly made.

But the simple fact is, Social Security is not a contract. This very important point is clearly brought out by Larry Becraft in his brief entitled "Comment Upon Voluntary Nature of Social Security." Therein, he states:

"Is Social Security a contract? A private insurance policy is clearly a contract because the policyholder makes a promise to pay money to the insurance company, which in turn agrees to likewise pay the policyholder if certain contingencies arise. These "promise to pay" elements are essential for a contract, but they simply are not present with Social Security. First, Social Security "payments" are not premium payments, but are taxes instead.

"Secondly, there is no corresponding and enforceable 'promise to pay' from the Social Security Administration to its 'beneficiaries.' [G]overnment contracts are very special and require an appropriation from Congress before money can be expended and a contract made.

Regarding Social Security, the only 'beneficiaries' who have any claim against the public treasury are those for whom Congress has already made an appropriation, which can last no longer than a year. The rest of the Social Security claimants in America have no enforceable claim on public funds, and all they possess is a 'political promise,' upon which Congress can renege at any moment. If Congress decided tomorrow to cut off all Social Security, nobody would have any claim for payment. Thus, Social Security has never been and is not now a contract."

Simply applying for (and receiving) a Social Security number does not constitute the making of a contract. And additionally, the Social Security Administration has never asserted that Social Security was a "contractual" agreement.




http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ssn.htm








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