no I have not gave up, just agree not to fall in love. I like following this board I see some good tips. And you are very good and give good tips that I do appreciate. I work at a PC all day but cant look at it constantly, and the worst is I cant look at L2. So I have to try and do DD to make my plays. Been in for three years and about even. not the best, but at least I have not lost my shirt. I have learned alot. I feel I am a better trader now after some interesting plays. the biggest is flip them and move on. now I need to excute with fall coming up. thanks again
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