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Re: yourbankruptcy post# 7966

Thursday, 07/03/2003 10:34:44 AM

Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:34:44 AM

Post# of 97585
yb - i missed that

And I doubt that it would be realistic to assume they could do that:
"65nm" is to be understood just a semantic reference for the shrink to come after the next, which is referred to as "90nm".

The latter will start end of this year (Intel), so probably "65nm" will be end of 2005 (Intel). AMD/IBM will be a year later. 2006. And I would not be surprised at all if it is going to be 2007.

All that if there is not a lot more hurdles in the way from the laws of physics and chemistry (for all in the industry) that we dont know yet - but have some indications for already, e.g. looking at Prescotts die and at its roadmap indicating poor scaling clockpeedwise within the next year. And listening to IBMs terminology: Interesting enough, IBM is still referring its next year's process (for Power5) as "130nm". Both are right in their references, Intel due to large amount of ultradense cache is sure closer to 90nm on average and can call it so, IBM just decided to be more conservative here, indicating current potential for shrinking the logic side is too marginal to rectify to call it the next node already.

The decision to migrate to SoI is probably an indication that such hurdles for shrinks below 100nm or so going forward have been anticipated for quite a while in Sunnyvale.

K.



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