sludgehound, re: TBIN and RRUN RRUN the inside buys were from 2001 the sells were in march and may of this year the OS as stated on the DEF14A was 76M, and you need to add the S8's TBIN the OS are at least 37.2 as per TA and that was before yesterdays S8 for 20M ....don't know where you got your info, but i provided references for my figures accuracy/honesty would be appreciated