Mindbender - looking at a 5min chart and trying to count it and that 5min chart has an 88 point bounce. <g> Just wotthehell amd I supposed to do with that??? Edit - Forgot...but the idealized fibs if (IF!) that is the start of a new impulse. 1=1954, 3=1975, 5=2118. Show me - don't tell me! Edit (again) - RRC from 1879 behaving as it should - and it fibs within itself close enough to 1975. Time will tell...