You have my sympathies on this. And just think, it IPO'd at 28 ducks. China Digital TV reports Q2 loss of ($0.01) vs earnings of $0.07 in the prior year's quarter; revs fell 39.3% to $10.4 mln I think most knew from the beginning that this would not work. If things get bad over there it will end up like STP did. Which is of course STPFQ