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Re: perutubes post# 20418

Wednesday, 09/03/2014 2:21:23 AM

Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:21:23 AM

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I pretty much have covered explaining every facet of why I consider it to be "this late date".. so i dont know of the reason you don't understand is because you didn't read those detailed explanations (I really covered it from various angles) or of you just don't understand the explanations? No sense me delineating them for you again since you have already deemed it moot & irrelevant. The reasons given were very relevant.

And I fail to get your connection between my opinion of why I think it's relatively late doesn't matter because I am not the one selling the company. That doesn't compute at all. Furthermore, it doesn't even sound like you understand what I'm talking about when I said relative late date. It has nothing to do w/vp or sawyer. It has to do with my opinion about the fact that no company has yet made a major bid to obtain the patents (in my opinion based on various things observed) considering the relative value of them as they have been portrayed & how that fact reflects on my perceived assessment of the value of them and/or there actual authenticity as truly foundational to the current & future state of voip based communications & other uses.

So I don't see how that has any connection to what you said, but I did my best to make it clear & I believe my point is undeniable, when considering the reasons I have spelled out to support my view. I find it very basic economics.

It's kind of funny. I have been accused of just "throwing stuff out there" even tho I go to great lengths to at least try to validate my belief about anything I've said. And that is actually true, that I have provided a plethora of support to back up my basic contentions, which is just the opposite of throwing things out there. On the other hand, it seems that the majority of recent comments by others about my points, have been offered in that just "thrown out there" kinda way. You DID offer some kind of supporting reason for your comments, but as I explained above, they didn't seem to have to do much with what I had said.

On balance, you did recognize that the pr's did indeed include licensing negotiations as well, so that might help whoever that was earlier who said that was not the case.

When do you think the description of and/or the architecture of the patents 1st became available for minds that that comprehend those technicalities?? I posted, that voip been around for 40 yrs & in a heavy use way, for 10 yrs roughly. It has been announced 6 ways to Sunday that legacy telephony is headed out the door (it already is greatly diminished in the face of voip). If the 5 patents & their ancillary forms are the foundation of voip, for real, then this ain't no disco kid, and I therefore cannot fathom the big players in the voip industry letting this baby slip thru their fingers. In fact, the only way I can believe any longer that the patents are that seriously important, is if there is a consortium of some kind, you know, rockstaresque-like, that has indeed been brewing in negotiations for last few months, and that the leadership of such a group has convinced vplm that it's a gonna happen & not to worry & so vplm knows they don't have to pressured into taking some chump change offer from some bargain hunter wanting to steal it away.

So I declare at this time that in the very near future, such a deal will be revealed or this whole thing will crumble into the reality of the fact that it's not nearly as needed as has been touted & believed in. And as to the MS bid for their version of LI, maybe they finally realized it wasn't as precious as originally thought. My support for that idea is the fact that they have not gobbled up the portfolio. Plain & simple. (but they almost certainly would be part of the consortium. Otherwise they'd have by now snatched it up for Skype & world communications domination.

Want more? Consider that voip-pal, who supposedly has tested & proven voip phone service, devices, switching network & did I mention FOUNDATIONAL, total control, total lock on the whole kit and kaboodle, PATENTS...... hmmm....well that means right NOW, they could simply open up shop... as the biggest voip provider in these outer reaches of the galaxy! No??? Why not? What's to stop them? They OWN the foundational control of voip AND have a voip company called voip-pal AND still advertise as having a complete voip platform, hardware & software. WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DREAM FOR IN A COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY?
give me a break... Consortium or bust, in the next 60-90 days.
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